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		<title>By: jic</title>
		<link>http://whatwouldtotowatch.com/2009/08/12/why-bother-with-fanboy-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-21982</link>
		<dc:creator>jic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you a member of Online Film Critics Society?  The part of the above paragraph that I didn&#039;t quote (because it was mainly repeating what you had just written) said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Most critics from the Online Film Critics Society (OFCS) enter their own quotes and ratings.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Which implies that non-members don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a member of Online Film Critics Society?  The part of the above paragraph that I didn&#8217;t quote (because it was mainly repeating what you had just written) said:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Most critics from the Online Film Critics Society (OFCS) enter their own quotes and ratings.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Which implies that non-members don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: cftoto</title>
		<link>http://whatwouldtotowatch.com/2009/08/12/why-bother-with-fanboy-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-21981</link>
		<dc:creator>cftoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting ... it&#039;s lame that critics can&#039;t be bothered to rate their own work. The whole process of adding a review to RT takes about a minute or less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8230; it&#8217;s lame that critics can&#8217;t be bothered to rate their own work. The whole process of adding a review to RT takes about a minute or less.</p>
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		<title>By: jic</title>
		<link>http://whatwouldtotowatch.com/2009/08/12/why-bother-with-fanboy-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-21979</link>
		<dc:creator>jic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I contribute to RT and it’s up to me to decide whether a particular movie is fresh or rotten. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

According to RT themselves, it&#039;s not always that simple:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; For critics who don&#039;t enter in their own quotes and ratings, it&#039;s basically up to the judgment of the editors. They take into account word choice, rating (if any), tone, and who&#039;s the critic in their determination of whether a review is positive or not. If an editor is not certain about a review, it is sent to another editor for a second opinion. &quot;Wishy-washy&quot; reviews, reviews that are really difficult to determine if the critic recommends the film or not, are usually given a Rotten because if the critic is not confident enough to give the movie even an implied recommendation, then we shouldn&#039;t either.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>I contribute to RT and it’s up to me to decide whether a particular movie is fresh or rotten. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>According to RT themselves, it&#8217;s not always that simple:</p>
<blockquote><p><i> For critics who don&#8217;t enter in their own quotes and ratings, it&#8217;s basically up to the judgment of the editors. They take into account word choice, rating (if any), tone, and who&#8217;s the critic in their determination of whether a review is positive or not. If an editor is not certain about a review, it is sent to another editor for a second opinion. &#8220;Wishy-washy&#8221; reviews, reviews that are really difficult to determine if the critic recommends the film or not, are usually given a Rotten because if the critic is not confident enough to give the movie even an implied recommendation, then we shouldn&#8217;t either.</i></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: cftoto</title>
		<link>http://whatwouldtotowatch.com/2009/08/12/why-bother-with-fanboy-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-21978</link>
		<dc:creator>cftoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I contribute to RT and it&#039;s up to me to decide whether a particular movie is fresh or rotten. It&#039;s not so simple ... some movies are smart and ambitious but ultimately fail. So how do you grade that on an up-or-down scale?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I contribute to RT and it&#8217;s up to me to decide whether a particular movie is fresh or rotten. It&#8217;s not so simple &#8230; some movies are smart and ambitious but ultimately fail. So how do you grade that on an up-or-down scale?</p>
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		<title>By: jic</title>
		<link>http://whatwouldtotowatch.com/2009/08/12/why-bother-with-fanboy-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-21976</link>
		<dc:creator>jic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT describes their method &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rottentomatoes.com/help_desk/faq.php#judge&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  I don&#039;t think their system actually works very well.  It&#039;s not at all unusual to see mainly negative reviews labeled &quot;fresh&quot;, and vise-versa.  I find Metacritic much more consistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RT describes their method <a href="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/help_desk/faq.php#judge" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  I don&#8217;t think their system actually works very well.  It&#8217;s not at all unusual to see mainly negative reviews labeled &#8220;fresh&#8221;, and vise-versa.  I find Metacritic much more consistent.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnFNWayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnFNWayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question, who decides if a critic&#039;s review at RT is rotten or fresh? Is it the critic themselves or some one pulling the lever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question, who decides if a critic&#8217;s review at RT is rotten or fresh? Is it the critic themselves or some one pulling the lever?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take: it&#039;s the studios experimenting about how to game Rotten Tomatoes. Think about it: if that site aggregates lots of reviewers, coming up with a combined score, but the only reviews that are out are from people picked because they&#039;ll skew high, then the studios can begin to gain control over RT.

Next up, my movie script on the subject... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take: it&#8217;s the studios experimenting about how to game Rotten Tomatoes. Think about it: if that site aggregates lots of reviewers, coming up with a combined score, but the only reviews that are out are from people picked because they&#8217;ll skew high, then the studios can begin to gain control over RT.</p>
<p>Next up, my movie script on the subject&#8230; <img src='http://whatwouldtotowatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cftoto</title>
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		<dc:creator>cftoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PaulM, thanks for your candor. I think we all wanted &quot;The Phantom Menace&quot; to rock when we first saw it. It will age badly. Very badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulM, thanks for your candor. I think we all wanted &#8220;The Phantom Menace&#8221; to rock when we first saw it. It will age badly. Very badly.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a fanboy and I thought I couldn&#039;t have seen a worse movie this year than &quot;Transformers 2&quot;.....that changed last Friday at around 4:15PM EST.

I remember being part of the &quot;Lucas&#039;s Vision&quot; crowd up until 2 years ago when I watched all the prequels in a row and realized what a great story but horrid execution can produce in a film.

I loved READING the prequel stories (except for the Midichlorian garbage)...but the execution on film when the action died down was HORRIBLE.  No wonder Ewan McGreggor has distanced himself from the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fanboy and I thought I couldn&#8217;t have seen a worse movie this year than &#8220;Transformers 2&#8243;&#8230;..that changed last Friday at around 4:15PM EST.</p>
<p>I remember being part of the &#8220;Lucas&#8217;s Vision&#8221; crowd up until 2 years ago when I watched all the prequels in a row and realized what a great story but horrid execution can produce in a film.</p>
<p>I loved READING the prequel stories (except for the Midichlorian garbage)&#8230;but the execution on film when the action died down was HORRIBLE.  No wonder Ewan McGreggor has distanced himself from the series.</p>
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		<title>By: kbiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t help except to get those who already bought the midnight ticket to also buy tickets for a second screening and possibly drag along a reluctant friend or two because, &quot;so and so said it was super cool!&quot;  If anyone who was not already predisposed to like this kind of thing takes the fanboy reviews seriously then they deserve the $30 hollywood/theater concession tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t help except to get those who already bought the midnight ticket to also buy tickets for a second screening and possibly drag along a reluctant friend or two because, &#8220;so and so said it was super cool!&#8221;  If anyone who was not already predisposed to like this kind of thing takes the fanboy reviews seriously then they deserve the $30 hollywood/theater concession tax.</p>
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